July 25, 2002
Save Karyn
Update 3/3/03:
More important to me than the Save Kary site is to save my friend David.
My friend David has had an accident and broken his hip. He is uninsured and needs a pin for his hip. Please help him if you can, or at least send him a get well card.
Send fruit baskets and donations to:
David V. Griffin
16 Parkside Avenue
Apt. #50
Brooklyn, NY 11226
I am (temporarily) raising money for David via a paypal account that goes to me, until I can get in touch with someone in his family and have it go to them directly. If you can hold off for a few days, great, but if you have an itchy trigger finger or are concerned you may forget, donate now and I'll see to it that it gets to him.
If you want to wish him a get well, I will be forwarding any comments to this post to him.
Save Karyn
Astute readers out in Brooklyn pointed out that this site was the sort of thing that makes my head spin, my eyes roll back in my head, the hair on my ears grow, and all my other bits go wobbly.
Karyn (whom I presumably don't know) has amassed $20,000 in credit card debt. She is asking for her friendly neighborhood web friends to help pay it off.
After all, if 20,000 people gave her just a dollar, she'd be paid off that day.
If 10 people gave her two grand apiece, she'd be paid off faster than you could say "Zionist Conspiracy."
And she's already got (she claims) a 65 hour a week job, so creative problem solving this with a bartending gig isn't going to happen.
She's auctioning off her life. This week, a g-shock watch, a kate spade bag, her shower curtain.
And no, she won't have sex with you for money.
And no, I didn't ask, it was in the FAQ.
I am not suggesting that you donate. I don't even know if it's for real, or just another Worldcom type scam to prise money out of your cold, dead fingers. I've emailed her with a proposal that she sell banner ad impressions, since it's the sort of site that'd get picked up in the media, get massive hits, and she could earn money that way. Haven't heard back yet, but I just emailed her 12 hours ago.
Maybe I'll pay her to pose with the sign. Hmm.
Posted by Swerdloff at July 25, 2002 08:52 AM
karyn makes me want to vomit. i don't give money to homeless people on the street most of the time, and i'm supposed to want to help out a woman who spent 125 bucks on a shower curtain? still, i guess i have to commend her on being pretty clever since lots of people seem to give her money.
Why didn't *I* get an offer of money to pose with the sign?!?
being relatively poor myself, i find it very hard to come up with any sympathy for anybody who has amassed $20,000 worth of credit card debt. i can't even GET that much credit, much less buy that much crap. perhaps we should be thinking about teaching the younger generation how to avoid large amounts of debt rather than helping someone we don't know dig out of a hole she created in the first place.
Savekaryn.com is pathetic. She is the epitome of the average "run of the mill", poor excuse using, same as the rest, poor slobs that give this country a bad appearance. You know why? She is weak. She was given the opportunity to use money loans from established businesses and in return she signed her name stating SHE would pay them back. Then poor little Karyn decides she just can't control her urges and she just can't stop buying things until all the money lent to her, is gone. She obviously has no self control. She will probably end up filing bankruptcy in the long run anyway because this pathetic attempt at paying back the creditors is not doing a damn thing. On her site she lists a small list of her balances, her ebay funds and the donations and then her payments. Then she deducts that from her credit balance? We'll first off now we know why she is in the position she is in. She must be forgetting about the interest accumulating each month? She can't be that naive can she? For instance if she really did put 1102.67 towards the balance of $19,533.72 total debt from July 14, 2002, her new balance would be around $18,543.37. Here is why. We don't know what her interest rate on the credit is, so even if we give her a low rate of even 6.900% for the whole amount, which would be good, her balance would be reduced by about 990.00 The interest would still eat up over 100.00 each month, so even if she could make these kinds of a payments towards her overall credit debt each month she is still going to end up paying alot more than she thinks she owes in the long run. Even at a 6.900% interest rate it would take years to finally payoff. I don't believe that she cares about the interest rates and taxes in the future, (like she says on her site) simply because she was careless with her OWN financial being, so why would she care about people she doesn't know? This little yuppie-gone-bust is not honest. On her site you will notice her sitting in front of her laptop. Laptops are not cheap. If she was hard up for cash wouldn't it be wise to sell the luxury laptop and just work on a decent cheap desktop while she pays everything off. She is broke but she can pay for her domain name and have it hosted monthly too? I believe she is taking advantage of people in this country because we are giving people. The sick thing is, that she lives in the same state where one of the biggest tragedies of all time happened to the people of our country. Yes she lives in New York and she wants to take advantage of the people. She wont even show her pathetic face on her poorly designed website. I despise this poor excuse she is using to get donations. It is very sad. She is not broke by any means. Yet she continues to tell people she is. She is lying. She says on her website, "Maybe it was too many morning lattes that pushed me over the edge, maybe it was the Prada pumps that I bought on eBay." I'm telling you she never bought anything on eBay, ask her, there is nothing.
She has been reported to multiple institutions, IRS, BBB, etc.
It's sick what things you can find on the net, aint it? THE TRUTH
Whether she is pathetic or not, she will probably get money sent to her. That in itself is quite innovative. I have no sympathy for her, but if people are dumb enough to send money to her. Then she is doing pretty good. Maybe I should start a save me website
Yes but Darren do you believe people should learn from their own mistakes? She won't learn this way. Besides my biggest grudge with this scammer is that she is lying to get donations. So I guess it would be ok if I said I have a dying relative thats needs donations to help them, and that would be ok? I think not.
Can I use this site to send money to my little buddy Darren!?!?!
What an absolutely pathetic excuse for a woman. The most disapointing display of a woman in the year 2002 I have ever encountered.
I think Karyn should learn some statistics as to how many children die of malnutrition in our country. Their mothers have never even had the opportunity to accumulate credit card debt. They were born into hardship.
Maybe instead of asking for money, she should ask for advise on how not to be a piece of crap for the rest of her life.
Why should I give someone money that cannot control their spending? I believe her! I think she is using our hard earned money for her own use! She doesn't care about us, why should we care about her? Just because she doesn't want to file bankruptcy, doesn't mean we should give money to her! If she wanted to have perfect credit, then why didn't she think about that before she spent all that money on nothing that will be in style in two mintutes? Maybe she should use the money we are sending to buy some common sense!
Karyn E.Bosnak is pathetic. She is the epitome of the average "run of the mill", poor excuse using, same as the rest, poor slobs that give this country a bad appearance. You know why? She is weak. She was given the opportunity to use money loans from established businesses and in return she signed her name stating SHE would pay them back. Then poor little Karyn decides she just can't control her urges and she just can't stop buying things until all the money lent to her, is gone. She obviously has no self control. She will probably end up filing bankruptcy in the long run anyway because this pathetic attempt at paying back the creditors is not doing a damn thing. On her site she lists a small list of her balances, her ebay funds and the donations and then her payments. Then she deducts that from her credit balance? We'll first off now we know why she is in the position she is in. She must be forgetting about the interest accumulating each month? She can't be that naive can she? For instance if she really did put 1102.67 towards the balance of $19,533.72 total debt from July 14, 2002, her new balance would be around $18,543.37. Here is why. We don't know what her interest rate on the credit is, so even if we give her a low rate of even 6.900% for the whole amount, which would be good, her balance would be reduced by about 990.00 The interest would still eat up over 100.00 each month, so even if she could make these kinds of a payments towards her overall credit debt each month she is still going to end up paying alot more than she thinks she owes in the long run. Even at a 6.900% interest rate it would take years to finally payoff. I don't believe that she cares about the interest rates and taxes in the future, (like she says on her site) simply because she was careless with her OWN financial being, so why would she care about people she doesn't know? This little yuppie-gone-bust is not honest. On her site you will notice her sitting in front of her laptop. Laptops are not cheap. If she was hard up for cash wouldn't it be wise to sell the luxury laptop and just work on a decent cheap desktop while she pays everything off. She is broke but she can pay for her domain name and have it hosted monthly too? I believe she is taking advantage of people in this country because we are giving people. The sick thing is, that she lives in the same state where one of the biggest tragedies of all time happened to the people of our country. Yes she lives in New York and she wants to take advantage of the people. She wont even show her pathetic face on her poorly designed website. I despise this poor excuse she is using to get donations. It is very sad. She is not broke by any means. Yet she continues to tell people she is. She is lying. She says on her website, "Maybe it was too many morning lattes that pushed me over the edge, maybe it was the Prada pumps that I bought on eBay" So I'm going to give you guys a little info on this little scam artist. Here's her story....
[Edited to remove personal information posted about Karyn by "THE TRUTH"]
It's sick what things you can find on the net, aint it? THE TRUTH
Argentina will collect money using the internet
Just like this New York girl Karyn is begging money through the internet with his savekaryn.com site , we are using the same method to pay our IMF huge debt !
Check our low budget site :
http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/argentinadiary/saveargentina.html
Don't do it. Don't Save Karyn!
http://www.dontsavekaryn.com
Save Karyn if you like, but I can give you more reasons to save people who really need help, like us!
http://www.savekarynandus.com
Well well well. Working for Jenny Jones made her spend all that money. Here is an old post I found on the alt...... boards. The One and Only:
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Message 1 in thread
From: Karyn E. Bosnak (karynb@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: The Jenny Jones Show
Newsgroups: chi.media
View this article only
Date: 1996/07/31
Come and be a part of the Jenny Jones nationally syndicated studio
audience. The show is taped during the day at the NBC Tower located in
downtown Chicago. Best of all, the seats are free! For tickets,
please call 312-836-9485.
If people are stupid enough to pay money to this girl then what is the harm. She is obviously doing nothing to help herself,that is obvious by her website. As much time as she spends on it she could be working a part time job.. but someone is going to feel bad for her and give her money. She is playing on people's emotions and it seems to be working. There is nothing that is going to stop her so let the dumb people send her money. She has no morals, and she doesn't care. Most people would work their butt off trying to get themselves out of debt, while she sits on her butt on her computer. If it works than it works. The only great thing about it would be if no one paid her, but thats not going to happen so why spend time dwelling on it and if dumb iddiots want to give her money, let them.
For years I've been trying to think of ways of earning money over the Internet. I put up my own entertainment site (http://www.twistedunicorn.com), tried selling books via Amazon.com, and even tried selling t-shirts via CafePress.com--all to no avail.
Then along comes Karyn and she gets money for simply putting up a begging site that has gotten a lot of attention. It has led to at least one imitator named Ann (http://www.helpann.com) who is also begging for money as hard as Karyn is.
So I decided to try my own begging site called Aid Kim to see if I end up making money from the Internet. Here it is:
http://www.twistedunicorn.com/aidkim/
Don't help Save Karyn, set your own price and help buy our kids a house.
Have you ever had a merchant offer to let you set your own price? That's what John and Lorraine Enos are doing at their unique new e-book store, "Set Your Price And Help Buy Our Kids a House."
"Buying our kids a house is tops on our priority list," Lorraine said. "But we've never been able to pay our bills and save up for a down payment. We figured we had nothing to lose by offering to let people set their own price for our e-books."
John tells how the couple came up with the idea for the site. "When we first heard about Karyn's plan to pay off her credit card bills, which she ran up by buying $200 shoes and $4 lattés, by soliciting her fellow Netizins for cash, we were astonished-and slightly appalled-by her chutzpah. We were also impressed by the amount of money she was able to collect with her self-serving plea."
"We spent days trying to figure out how to adapt her idea and still keep our dignity," Lorraine broke in. "Finally we realized we could offer visitors a copy of our new ebook, Living Off the Employment Grid, for their contributions." Living Off the Employment Grid contains a wealth of tips on saving and making money for anyone who's short of cash.
Visitors who contribute $1 or more will receive Living Off the Employment Grid and anyone who contributes $5 or more will receive Living Off the Employment Grid and Whisper Alley, a military thriller set on Okinawa. Ten bucks or more will get you both of the above books and Lori's e-book bestseller, The Portable Coach: A Do-It-Yourself Approach to Personal Coaching.
So visit http://ourkidshouse.freewebsites.com/ now and set your own price.
Have you guys covered this website...SaveTheCEO.com? I heard about it from
a friend, and thought I'd read about it on your site, but can't remember. If you did cover it, please send the link to the article. I want to re-read
it to find out what this site's all about.
Michael J. Burdick
Read the dot.minion article on her (September 23rd 2002)--it's the best explanation/response I've seen so far.
A new site in the tradition of Save Karyn has been online for about two weeks. It's about a small family that wants to get out of debt and dedicate more time to family life. Pay a visit at www.savemydad.com. Follow their progress, updated daily.
I wish I could say I was screwed because of
buying expensive crap from Macy's or Bloomingdales. I've never even been in those stores. I shop at ROSS and PAYLESS SHOE SOURCE (when I have extra money.)
Yes, I have bought clothes and taken them back to get the money. I have worn the shoes once to an interview and then took them back. HELL I EVEN TELL THE PEOPLE AT BURGER KING THAT THEY MESSED UP JUST SO I COULD GET A FREE BURGER TO EAT!
I ask for one dollar. Nothing more nothing less...and I have received help from REALLY nice people. Karyn, Karen, Care Inn is a complete ass. $600.00 dollars for a purse when I need to collect cans and ride my bike to my doctor's appointments.
If you hate Careless Karyn as much as I do...send ME a dollar! http://www.help4heather.com
God bless!
Heather xo
Karyn has a talent for being materialistic and selfish. Here's a site I donated to that is really genuine. Elaine is an aspiring Opera singer and needs help paying for her voice lessons http://www.SaveElaine.com !
Tis sad but true about Internet scams. I agree
with I read on this board about the figures not adding up correctly. BTW has anyone seen the latest site at www.chironex.net, some guy is showing pictures of his leg after a surgery that put his leg back together. He was hit by a car I think. Ichy photos, I wonder if that is legite?
the perfect solution
hatesavekaryn.com
if everyone hates karyn why didn't they just make a club? By the way, I loved the argument about the interest on her credit cards.
What about the new brand of cyberbeggar
moneywaster.com
Actually, regarding the interest argument - I could have sworn that I read somewhere on her site that she paid all of the finance charges on her own, independent of the debt tally...and of course, there are always 0.0% introductory rate cards (assuming that you read the fine print and make sure they won't apply a higher rate retroactively if you close the account too quickly).
That said - I don't agree with what she is doing. I read (I think it was salon.com or a similar site) that she *was* making in the 100k range, before she lost her job. Now, she settles for a paltry 40-60k...she did say half, right? Considering that there are entire families that live on far less than that, we know that this girl is not poor - she comes up with around $100 of her own each week, not to mention the finance charges she pays.
Even if she were poor, there are possible explanations for the laptop and hosting site. The laptop could be a leftover perk from a former job...or the perk of a current job...possibly an old gift from family or a friend...she could have purchased it used - half.com often has laptops under $600...It could be financed - part of the debt :P A laptop does not make you rich :)
As for the domain and hosting services - it's really not that expensive anymore, especially when it's bringing in more cash than it is costing you. I'm a broke college student, and I could certainly scrape together the funds to put up a begging site...assuming that I possessed a similar sense of entitlement and lack of pride in fixing my own mistakes.
One last thing...I think it is really low to post someone's personal info like that, whether you have a problem with their actions or not. I realize that personal info is readily available on the internet, but there are still a lot of people who *don't* know that or don't know how to find it. I just don't want to see Save Karyn, Part 2 - I'm a super nice girl, now help me pay for my bodyguards and home security system...
In case anyone hasn't heard. Karyn paid off all her debt. All $20,000 is now history. And with any hope will stay that way. So, scam or not she got the money.
She did however do one thing that she promised but really didn't need too. She has kept her promise to pass the buck to someone else.
Once a week she adds a person to her Karyn Saves You list.
Here are the first two.
First was Save Elaine. A struggling Opera singer.
Second was Help Heather. She has Ovarian Cancer.
Perhaps the marketing momentum from Karyn will help out those to people.
I am certainly willing to trade links to help with site exposure.
Rick
Check out this site http://www.prorave.com/homeless for something much more unique than anything "Save Karyn" has to offer. This guy is actually trying to save the bums of Venice Beach.
Check out this site http://www.prorave.com/homeless for something much more unique than anything "Save Karyn" has to offer. This guy is actually trying to save the bums of Venice Beach.
fix the javascript on this page
How about a new fund for another irresposible money grubber? SaveKenLay.com
I'm sick of all these retarded ass people crying "save me, save me". How 'bout we send well-armed squads into your trailer parks with orders to shoot on sight, and to not stop firing except to reload and then return shooting into your carcasses. Damn terr'ists!
She doesn't have to HAVE SEX for money, but she can certainly SHARE!Expecting money for nothing is a pretty lazy way to go about her current problem.So if she shared a little chicken with those who are hungry...mabe someone will share some tubesteak & potatoes.Variety is the spice of life they say.So let the poor thing LIVE!Don't worry...nobody said she had to eat the steak that hangs too long and rots...but she is more than welcome to try.(watch out for botulism dear!)
So if this on-line pedler can get ahead(heheh)then we can hope that she won't forget the(little) people that helped scrape up the mess she made.... p.s.don't forget to shower after!
Grandly more disturbing and disturbed than Karen is the person that is posting her address and, of all the inane details, her running times. Google factiods don't seem purposeful or appropriate. She was honest about how stupid she was and she was honest about why she was soliciting money. Pretty strait forward. Pretty noninvasive and nonagressive. I would never try to curtail anyone's right to have or post an opinion about that woman, but I am really shocked that anyone would encourage harassment about this and then receive kudos. THE TRUTH hasn't posted his home address and phone number so I can call him and disagree with his public post, and I am sure he would be pretty freaked if I traced him back and gave him a call, just to let him know that I thought he was wrong. And especially freaked if I put his personal info on chatboards and told everyone else to give him a call. So stop being a freaky harassing type weirdo and focus your energy on something that is actually significant, like anti-stalking laws.
Petty side note: People who would find Karen a worthy canidate for charity probably don't care if she fibs about her Prada shoes. That is the silliest attempt at drumming up outrage I have ever seen.
Uh.... your point is well taken, I've removed the offending portions. I posted this months and months ago and never paid attention to it because frankly, I didn't care.
I didn't even realize that her (your?) home phone was on there. Sorry.
Then again, I did email Karyn and never received a response, I did offer help and never received a response, and I did giver her ideas as to other ways to make money that were valid and had no startup cost and never had a response, so I'm thinking that the word "Scam" comes to mind. But I can't say one way or the other, and frankly, I don't care.
I know that I'm a little old, 250 years to be exact. I'm no beauty queen, but I do have possibilities. That's why I need cosmetic surgery. I'm not even human. I am a house if you care to know. Actually I'm French, and I'm proud to be French. I still need a little compassion from people in the world. So I thought, why not try cyber begging. If the Americans could adopt one of my younger cousins (the Statue of Liberty) back in 1886, surely someone might want to have pity on poor little 'ole me all in the name of international friendship. Have a heart and lend an old gal a helping hand. Love, Marguerite
Merci beaucoup!
I thought it was interesting how everyone seems to give their "TWO-CENTS" when it comes to Karyn and her savekaryn website. I would like to invite you to my site www.giveyourtwocents.com where you can really give you $.02! Make sure you tell your friends to give their two cents too. Lets watch the pot grow!!!
Hugs,
Lori
Hi! Thanks Uh.... for the nice posting. And sorry Swerdloff that I never answered your emails. I have received over 35,000 of them.
Bye!
Karyn
I have sent like 4 emails to karyn and not one were answered. To be honest, I think that is EXTREMELY rude. Now I can't stand the woman. I have had my site up for 2 months now and have only received 2 donations. I don't even get much email even though the site was on the "USA Today hotsite list for January 8, 2003. This is depressing to me because I spent hundreds of hours on the site and also on the cafepress store front creating new designs for t-shirts and stuff. We don't even have credit card bills because in France you are required to pay all of your bills off each month or face going to court and then they come our to your house and take what they want to cover the bills. I love France but I don't care for some of these out dated laws. I guess in one way it does force people to be more responsible about money and paying bills and such. We really need help to repair our house and I am at my wits end as to what to do at this point. I think that we have a noble cause but I gues because of the Bush/Iraq situation, the French aren't very popular with Americans right now. Guess what? I am actually American. I do live in France with my French cousion and my 3 kids but I am still American. Although, I can't say that I am too proud of my country right now due to Bush's overinflated ego and the need to dictate to the world, etc... OK, I gotta go and I love this forum. If you guys get a chance, please visit my site and tell me what is wrong with it and why people don't even bother to send email. Thanks so much. Take care.... Bea
www.savemarguerite.com
www.cafeshops.com/maisonfrancaise
I was curious if the www.unhappywhiteboy.com site is a scam like savekaryn is. Does anyone know?
Cheers,
James
Please help me, if 60,000 people send me one dollar I can turn my life around.
The site I give broke my heart! If that lady on TV Karyn
can get donations to pay shopping credit cards, then
people need to awake and see that ther are folks that
ACTUALLY need alittle helping hand. Keep this family
in your prayers and in your heart. Please visit. I mailed a dollar.
I hope some can do more. Huggs, Melanie